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03 Apr 2011 22:07 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
First message!

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03 Apr 2011 22:10 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Second message!

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03 Apr 2011 22:10 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Third message!

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03 Apr 2011 22:11 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Fourth message!

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03 Apr 2011 22:24 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Good morning James!

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03 Apr 2011 22:25 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Wow! Now it works on iOS safari!

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03 Apr 2011 22:34 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Offta school now :D
Bye James!

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03 Apr 2011 23:52 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Hi Kenneth, I'm off to work as well. It's not quite finished yet, just a couple of bugs I need to iron out :-)

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04 Apr 2011 00:07 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Nine

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04 Apr 2011 00:08 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Ten

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04 Apr 2011 00:08 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Eleven!

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04 Apr 2011 15:26 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Funny bug, I can't work it out… the “Currently Active Users” section should be 200 pixels wide, and be aligned to the right (adjacent to any visible vertical scroll bars). Can anybody work it out?

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04 Apr 2011 22:30 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Strange… it appears that the first <td> isn't extending to it's full length…

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05 Apr 2011 01:54 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Works at school :P

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05 Apr 2011 01:58 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
James, I found the problem.

Remove the display:block;

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05 Apr 2011 02:00 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Another bug? "Currently active users"…

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05 Apr 2011 06:32 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Actually, solution:
*http://chat.wdfiles.com/local--code/css:2**

1| .chat-active {width:200px !important;}
2| 
3| ......

chatarchive

1| [[module CSS]]
2| @import url(...
3| .chat-active {width:0px;overflow:hidden;}
4| [[/module]]
5| ...

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05 Apr 2011 06:39 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
I made some changes. Fixes for Chrome… haven't tested for other browsers. Basically, instead of adjusting display in style, the width is adjusted. If css:2 isn't applied, the width is 0px with overflow set as hidden. When it is, the width is set to 200px with !important.

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05 Apr 2011 06:42 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Also, are you aware of the bug is the currently active users?

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05 Apr 2011 12:33 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.

James, I found the problem.
Remove the display:block;…

Golly! You're right! I (correctly) used the "display: none;" tag to hide the cell, but I incorrectly used the "display: block;" tag to show it.

I have since updated it to the correct "display: table-cell;" tag.

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05 Apr 2011 12:37 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.

Instead of adjusting display in style, the width is adjusted. If css:2 isn't applied, the width is 0px with overflow set as hidden. When it is, the width is set to 200px with !important.

Impressive workaround! I have reverted the system back to the "display" method, which I like better because some browsers don't know how to handle text-overflow very well. All browsers know how to handle display methods.
Still, impressive workaround!

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05 Apr 2011 12:37 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
It's thinking outside the box!

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05 Apr 2011 12:45 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.

Also, are you aware of the bug is the currently active users?

Yeah, I was. It's fixed now :)

Which means this chat upgrade is ready to go live!

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05 Apr 2011 12:51 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Awesome :D

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05 Apr 2011 12:51 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Mind you, it's not really that much of an upgrade. It's simply a few backend changes to simplify the structure. I didn't like that you needed to create 8 pages on your site to install the application. Now there's only 4 pages to create. And thanks to the advent of CSIs, this framework becomes much much easier to push updates and fixes.

Currently the Chat application is not flexible in terms of customisation. But that will come later.

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05 Apr 2011 12:54 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Oh, something that I've had planned to do was to upgrade the code for the “new message” alert. Currently it uses Flash to play the sound, but I would rather implement a HTML5 solution… this would increase compatibility amongst devices (especially iOS devices).

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05 Apr 2011 12:56 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Yes, the installation looks much simplified…

I have since updated it to the correct "display: table-cell;" tag.

I looked at Chrome's developer tools and it said display:table cell (with the space)… I tried that and realised it didn't work and reverted to adjusting the width :D

Oh, something that I've had planned to do was to upgrade the code for the “new message” alert. Currently it uses Flash to play the sound, but I would rather implement a HTML5 solution… this would increase compatibility amongst devices (especially iOS devices).

Yeah, I haven't tried the new <audio> tag in iOS, does it work like the flash or as a separate player (like the <video> tag?

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05 Apr 2011 12:59 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
It's all new to me, to be honest. I remember playing with the audio tag several months ago, and there were issues. For example, FireFox wouldn't play .mp3 sounds at the time, but every other browser worked. I don't know how much has changed since then though…

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05 Apr 2011 13:00 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
And for some strange reason, I was a member of this site "537 days ago"….
I don't remember joining…

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05 Apr 2011 13:01 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
I think there are ready-made scripts to switch between Flash and HTML5 <audio> tag when they are capable :D

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05 Apr 2011 13:01 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
This was originally an IronGiant Redirect site (your creation). It redirected you to "chatroom.wikidot.com"

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05 Apr 2011 13:03 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Well, that's what I was thinking too. I remember dwelling amongst "browser detection" code in order to manufacture something like that myself. Apparently browser detection is a discouraged technique in web development, however.

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05 Apr 2011 13:04 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Do you like the new chatroom sound?

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05 Apr 2011 13:06 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.

This was originally an IronGiant Redirect site (your creation). It redirected you to "chatroom.wikidot.com"

Ahh… but Pieter is MA.

Do you like the new chatroom sound?

I don't have speakers… I'll go and find some headphones…

HTML5 MP3 Audio Detection: https://gist.github.com/253174

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05 Apr 2011 13:13 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Thanks for the link Kenneth!

Let's try it out aye?

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05 Apr 2011 13:16 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Okay… BTW, I just switched to my iPod… I turned my PC off…

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05 Apr 2011 13:19 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Another suggestion: improve/modify the 'saving page'/'page saved' dialog. I like the was Bryce did it to his comments on css3.wikidot.com… AJAX-style loader > Smiley Face.

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05 Apr 2011 13:22 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
That's a great idea! As you've probably noticed, I was inspired by Shane's forum posts… what do you think?

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05 Apr 2011 13:27 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
What forum posts?

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05 Apr 2011 13:29 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
http://www.wdeditor.com/thread:159

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05 Apr 2011 13:33 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
You mean for the layout of the new chat message box?

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05 Apr 2011 13:33 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Yeah :)

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05 Apr 2011 13:35 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
And for some strange reason, none of Wikidot's odate spans work on Safari for iOS…

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05 Apr 2011 13:36 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
I like it. It's simple and easy to see with the large avatars showing.

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05 Apr 2011 13:44 by tsangk. Edited 0 times.
Well, goodnight James. I have a science practical exam tomorrow. Gotta get to bed now… Talk to you soon!

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05 Apr 2011 14:07 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Good luck!

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06 Apr 2011 01:23 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
I implemented a new method of Avatar Grabbing: JavaScript Avatar Grabber.

I've found it loads a bit faster than the server method :)

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06 Apr 2011 01:56 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
Okay, I'm bringing this live to the actual chatroom.

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06 Apr 2011 04:46 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
I ended up converting to HTML5/Flash via the W3Schools HTML5 standards: <audio> tag

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06 Apr 2011 13:23 by GoVegan. Edited 0 times.
I'm in the middle of implementing a mini version of the chatroom…

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